tomigna - yes you may have several diffrent modes you need to adjust, as cranemanjr said you can copy from one mode to the next, it will help get you close, but you will usaly have to adjust the other modes aswell. i made a note in my article about other modes. - I will add the copy function to this note. The document i created was an attempt to cover most of the models out there, there are some diffrences between the models and i am trying to note all of them.
Categories: Televisions and Projectors
I have been doing a lot of research on how to fix the convergence issue with my TV. It's a Sony KP-46WT500. I noticed on these boards and from the boards at FixYa that I need to get 2 Sanyo STK-392-560 IC's. I am going to order these from mcminone.com.
I noticed that it's also recommended to have the service manual for this repair. I am wondering if anyone has the manual that they can send to me. Larry, I'm hoping you may have one.
If so, my email address is jets5150 and that's @aol.com (spam filter).
I've found the suggestions and information on fixing this problem very useful so far. Thanks for your help!
i changed my posting to include the procedure to copy to diffrent display modes. hope this helps.
Tom,
I got my manual from Larry on this site. You will need to download Pando, so you can accept large emails. I think it is approx. 20 meg. Try Larry (moderator) for the manual.
Robert
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Many thanks to Larry and contributing members! I surfed to this forum and thread less than 2 weeks ago and have since successfully repaired my Sony KP-51HW40. It had the convergence problem. I replaced the 2 convergence chips on the D board and the -22V fuse on the G board. The TV is working great with no adjustments. I spent about $85 total on parts ($46), service manual ($24), thermal compound ($5) and a solder sucker ($10).
The only problem I had was when I tried to disconnect the small red wire from the transformer on the D board. (I successfully removed the large red wire at the other end - at the juction terminal.) I ended up breaking off the small red wire from down inside the plastic hole in the transformer. The wire is just pushed back in and I am sure it is not a very good connection.
2 questions:
1) What is the correct method of disconnecting this smaller red wire to remove the D board?
2) Any ideas on how to more permanently connect this wire now that I have broken it?
Thanks,
Mike
Hi Mike,
I asked the same question on 9/15 in this thread. I called it a "yikes" when the small red wire came out... However, as you have done, I just pushed it back in and it has been working fine ever since.
Nice job on the fix!
Bruce
mike_h, i think there is another connection on that distribution block, i may be wrong, but it might have a cap over it. When i have had problems i will use this other empty block, other than that you will need another distribution block.
Mike,
Can you remove the connector out of the transformer? You might be able to push it down and turn it to get it out. You could possibly re-use the connection, but make it shorter. I don't know if you could use a lag screw to go into the hole, bite down on the wire/connector and turn it to pop it out. I never disconnected those wires. I left the board attached.
Robert
cranemanjr said: Mike, Can you remove the connector out of the transformer? You might be able to push it down and turn it to get it out. You could possibly re-use the connection, but make it shorter. I don't know if you could use a lag screw to go into the hole, bite down on the wire/connector and turn it to pop it out. I never disconnected those wires. I left the board attached. RobertNo, I don't think it was designed to be removed. There is a very small hole in the bottom that has a very small pin/socket in it - not much bigger that the conductor part of the wire. Maybe the wire was crimped to it. That pin is about an inch down inside the hole/cavity for the insulated wire. It is not like the connections at the distribution block. When I removed the larger wire from the distribution block, I could see what looked like a spring in the hole. The removed wire there had a metal cap on the end that had a couple of flared out wings that keep it locked in. The smaller wire I pulled out did not have the cap and there was no cap down in the hole. Hope this makes senes... Mike
mike, you can't remove it from the transformer side, I am really not sure what you are talking about with the lag screw, but this wire will have upwards of 30,000 volts it. It will arch 5 inches. if the insulation is damaged with a simple cut, it will arch through this cut, air is a conductor to this kind of voltage. there is enough current to stop your heart beating. This is a wire not to be experimenting with, if it is damaged or not seated correctly you don't want it falling out! This i strongly recommend fixing correctly. I just checked the manual and this is the model with the extra connector so you can just put it into the extra hole, and cover the empty one with the cap. Like i said before it can jump 5 inches so the cap is the only think keeping it from arching.
zapdbf said: mike, you can't remove it from the transformer side, I am really not sure what you are talking about with the lag screw, but this wire will have upwards of 30,000 volts it. It will arch 5 inches. if the insulation is damaged with a simple cut, it will arch through this cut, air is a conductor to this kind of voltage. there is enough current to stop your heart beating. This is a wire not to be experimenting with, if it is damaged or not seated correctly you don't want it falling out! This i strongly recommend fixing correctly. I just checked the manual and this is the model with the extra connector so you can just put it into the extra hole, and cover the empty one with the cap. Like i said before it can jump 5 inches so the cap is the only think keeping it from arching.We are talking about a smaller red wire that goes from the D board to a block near the front grill. This is not one of the larger red wires going to the distribution block with the extra connection. I couldn't see how the smaller red wire could be disconnected from the block at the bottom/front of the TV, so I tried the push-twist-pull thing at the transformer on the D board and the wire broke off. I did get the lager red wire out of the distribution block. In hind site, I could have made the repairs leaving the smaller red wire connected. Do you what the smaller red wire to the transformer on the D board is for? I guess I could look at the schematic and figure it out...
if it is the one i am thinking of it is the g2 or focus wire going to the screen/focus controls on the front of the tv. this is much lower voltage. about 200 ish volts on this wire. if you solder it well and tape it up good you should be ok with this one. if you have trouble with this wire, the picture will turn bright white and the tvset will shut off, if it becomes dis connected. It could cause the tubes to draw too much current, this voltage is used like a valve on a flood gate. if the voltage is missing the flood gate is wide open. You may have to replace the flyback. if you cannot get to the end of the wire.
On some of the sonys, that connector was a push in lock type, you might beable to strip the wire back about 1/2 inch and push it in, it may lock down to a new wire pushing the other piece out. try that.
You are right. I just checked the schematic and it a a tap off the flyback transformer marked MV (medium voltage?). The block diagram shows it going 'TO FOCUS PACK'.
I cannot solder it because the pin is down inside the transformer housing. I guess this wire is not meant to be disconnected. What happens if someone need to replace the whole board? How do they disconnect/replace this wire?
Here is a picture of the transformer and the wires coming out of it. The smaller wire has a plug on the other end. Maybe it would have just pulled right out of the focus block. Oh well, now I know...
Yes it just pulls of of the focus block, it is a round pin. But you should try what i said about stripping back about 1/2 inch and push it in hard, it may clamp around the new wire.
Thanks, I may try that but I am not very eager to get back in there since it seems to working fine now...
Larry, I am in the same boat with this set. Are all of these prone to this condition? Formerly I worked on copiers for ten years so I am going to attempt this repair. If possible, could I too get a copy of the service manual or a link to the posted file for download. My email is jgbiius@yahoo.com. I do appreciate the work you have done here and have found your insight to the posters (like myself) very helpful.
It should be on its way to you. Good luck.
"Those who do not know their opponet's arguments, do not completely understand their own".
Larry, Thanks for the manual. I was told sometimes re soldering the pins on the ICs would fix the problem. As a post I tried this and there was no change. I ordered the sanyo Stk392-560ICs from mcminone but do you know if there is a place to order the 3.15A pico? mcminone told me they didnt have the 3.15A fuse. do you know of any other reputable sources?also that 3.15a fuse is a hard one to find do you think the 3.5a pico would be ok to use in a pinch?
Also, forgive me it has been a long time since i did board repair. I check continuity in the fuse with my meter and it showed continuity. however, if I remember right it would show that anyway from the other side of the circut....right?
Larry, I unsoldred all the fuses under the heat sink fins and they all ohm'd. I looked at your other post on sony tvs and noticed you mentioned checking on the power supply fuses. after checking them I found one that didnt ohm. At this point I have unsoldered the ICs because I checked the power supply fuses last (assuming that the problem was the IC's themselves) so I can't test the theory without more soldering. Could this bugger be the problem reather than the ICs themselves?
Just one more post for people who haven't done board repair before (and perhaps people who have). I was a conventional unsolder with wick person until yesterday. When I was looking for misc parts at radio shack I noticed an "unsoldering iron" for about 10 bucks. I bought it for this project. It unsoldered the ICs and fuses without wick in about 5 minutes. The conventional way puts alot of heat on the board for wicking. This little contraption slides over the pin and sucks the solder out with air using one hand! It barely heats up the area around the hole where the solder is removed. the ICs and fuses didnt require any more unsoldering to my surprise. Hope it helps.... And again thanks for the posts.
Yes, yes, and yes John. I like the solder sucker too! I have one with a vacum pump on the end. All I do is position the tip on the solder joint, press a small button on the soldering iron, and all the solder is gone.
"Those who do not know their opponet's arguments, do not completely understand their own".
Larry,
The repair went fine. Advice for others doing it.... Attention to detail....cannot be stressed enough.
For the beginner... BE WARNED... if you havent done this before...dont attemt your first repair on your set. The prior warnings in this post are right on. The capacitors in this box are big enough to get you good. I have ten years working on electronics and even I stood back when I hit the power switch the first time after the repair.
If you are a novice check the pico fuses on the power supply board first! I am not sure that the ICs were the issue. I had already unsoldered my ICs and ordered new ones when I found the blown fuse. I will not know if the fuse was the problem or not. If it was the repair would have cost 3 bucks plus my time. if you have gotten this far in the post and havent worked on boards much....that means unsoldering the fuses from the board to Ohm them.
As for you Larry Thanks
. Your insight combined with the other contributors to this post made this repair relatively easy. Knowing what and where to look with a piece of equipment is most of the battle. again thanks.
johnny neptune -
the fuse blown is a result of the ic's failure, fuses inside a tv never blow unless there is a reason! Fuses blow as a result of a failure not on their own.
Also the fuses do not have to be un-soldered from the board, they are a link back to a previous stage, so in order for a fuse to be effective the impedance to the previous stage must be infinity when they blow, in order for the fuse to do it's job. Test in circuit is fine.


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