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Brian17

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I have been doing a lot of research on how to fix the convergence issue with my TV.  It's a Sony KP-46WT500.  I noticed on these boards and from the boards at FixYa that I need to get 2 Sanyo STK-392-560 IC's.  I am going to order these from mcminone.com.

I noticed that it's also recommended to have the service manual for this repair.  I am wondering if anyone has the manual that they can send to me.  Larry, I'm hoping you may have one.

If so, my email address is jets5150 and that's @aol.com (spam filter).

I've found the suggestions and information on fixing this problem very useful so far.  Thanks for your help!

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September 19, 2007 6:25 PM

Yes I do remember this now, but been a while since I have had to do this.

"Those who do not know their opponet's arguments, do not completely understand their own".

September 20, 2007 8:04 AM

Pokester,

Page 36 in the manual gives you a section to write down these values between -512 to 511.  There are no starting values in the manual that I found.  Unfortunately that manual has been at my side for 2 weeks.  I took settings from a KP-44 off of another site, it got me close.  I just wanted to get settings from someone with a KP-46WT500. 

The first and largest priority in setting the convergence is getting your GREEN correct, that is going to help you set everthing else.  I saw on another site that there is a company that will make you a grid overlay that you can put on your TV.  You set your GREEN to that.  Once that is set you can do your other colors.  You just need to get them close.  I did the fine tune adjustment with the GREEN set from tweaked values from a KP-44.  My grids were close and then I changed to fine adjustment mode and I got it almost dead on all the way around.  The picture is super clear.  If your GREEN is not right, nothing else will be right.  I know I that I have to adjust one more thing.  I think I changed a value in the MID-2 or MID-3 section on accident.  The reason I know this is because when I hit FLASH, in service node to write the values to the FLASH,  I get an error SG3 or sensor 1 error.  In PJE at parameter 62 is 011 which means GREEN sensor 1 error.  My sensors are not picking up my FLASH because I changed one of the previous values that is putting my FLASH out of range.  I still have a great picture it is just something is not set correctly.  Work in progress until I figure out what it is that I changed.  If anyone can post their values I would appreciate it.  Just to check things over.  Setting the convergence on you understand it is not that hard, it just takes a while to sink in.  Hope this helps anyone the way Larry and this site has helped me. 

 Thanks,

Robert

  

September 20, 2007 2:51 PM

Took me forever to find this... (was almost thinking I had divine help while fixing... but then found it in the text...  so it wasn't some miraculous vision...)

There are TWO versions of this manual, one for the WIDE and one for the 4:3 version of this TV...

Okay... the 4:3 manual says on  page 27 .... to get the values from page 24....    (for wide TV manual, search for MLIN)

3-11-2. Main Deflection Adjustment

Note : Before this adjustment, input the data of PJE item No. 78-85, (See page 24).
     1. Place the caps on the red and blue lenses so that only the green color is displayed....

IGNORE THIS NOTE IN SECTION 3-11-1!!!!  DO NOT INIT!!!!  (This was an error and corrected in an addendum that I didn't see til AFTER!!!)

Note : When you replaced printed circuit boards or devices or CRTs, and when correction is drastically necessary, press "x" + "ENTER" buttons to initialize the data in the Projector Engine mode.

(I replaced the key with X so no one does this...)

to write the data.

But, yes... it steps you through as you said, Robert... so I wasted like  TWO HOURS by having to re-converge (I always sucked at doing convergence!  hahaha)  So - be advised those that NEED to do this, you're committing yourself to a few hours of frustration if you init without checking your voltages and fuses first!!!  But page 24 gives you some CLOSE starting values ...

Oh - and Robert - I couldn't get the HV off AT ALL.  When I realized I risked harming the wire, I went ahead and did the whole repair in a cramped corner on my elbows in the living room... with a shop light clamped above me.  LOL - then I got like 3 sensor errors before realizing that the shoplight was pouring enough light in to keep it from working right.... so shut it off and flipped the back cover up and TADA!

 (<-- Knows that Larry is just shaking his head and rolling his eyes hahahaha!)

Larry - gotta thank you for putting up with us amateurs.. because you have the patience of Job, my friend... hahaha... but, you're helping a lot of us poor boys hold onto a fantastic set... and keeping dozens of these things from hitting the landfill (as the shop bill for this would surely end up in these TVs getting kicked to the curb).

September 20, 2007 3:32 PM

Pokester,

 The unit it all buttoned up and I am getting the error.  The flashing lights on the side are more visible than the ones on the top and bottom.  The side lights come out all the way, but the top and bottom come out about half way.  This makes me think that I screwed up a setting in another area like the MID-1, 2 or 3.  Picture is great... a little wave at the bottom because I need to reconverge the GREEN a little better then adjust the other colors to match.  I know that hitting the flash in service mode will write the values to the flash, but does it also automatically teak your settings also.  I get what you mean about the patience of Job with the system.  That is my son's name.  No "E" on the end.  If you have any input on the sensor error I would appreciate.  Fine tune convergence is soooooo sweet.

-Robert

September 20, 2007 4:23 PM

Robert -there is an error code list in the manual...  in mine it's page 30...  

Search for the words "error code list" within adobe reader... and it should come up

It shows the error code on the right, description of the error then which setting is potentially off... 

I had to close the curtains because I have a really bright house... and it kept causing S0 and S1 errors from sun coming in from the side and above...

September 21, 2007 7:43 AM

Pokester,

 The flash worked just days ago before I made changes and it is in my basement so it is pretty dark.  There must be a setting for the flash lights that I changed (stupid).  My picture looks great.  I just have a slight wave to the picture at the bottom and top.  I don't think that I have the same manual as you becuase things that you described in earlier posts I did not find.  My page 30 has settings for the MID-1 and MID-2.  My error cose list is on page 43.  It does say to change 69 HLE.  Which I have tried but can't seem to come up with the correct setting.  What is your setting in PJE for 69 HLE and what are your GRN convergence settings.  Here is what I started with:

GRN\CENT -039 -002

GRN\SKEW 038 -055

GRN\SIZE 000 -200

GRN\LIN 015 000

GRN\KEY XXXX 000

GRN\PIN 000 237

GRN\MLIN 000 XXXX

GRN\MSIZ 000 XXXX

I am going to try to get a grid so that all my boxes are exactly equal.

-Robert

September 25, 2007 1:20 PM

Hey Robert - I have confirmed there's areas of stretching/compressing that weren't noticeable before... 

I suspect this is because I'm prettly blind and when I straightened the lines, I was actually bending them to where they appeared straight through my glasses.

I'm going to redo the convergence wearing contacts when I get a chance.... so, don't want to post my values as I know they're off...

September 25, 2007 2:01 PM

Pokester,

 I had the same problem.  Picture looked good, but the boxes were not set-up correctly.  So... I figured in order to do it correctly I needed to make a grid according to the size of the center boxes in the center of the grid.  I came up with a size of .75 (3/4") high x 1.480 wide (digital caliper reading).  I am not sure if this is the exact size since I could not find that info anywhere, but it's close enough for now. 

I made the grid in Autocad and had a guy print it out full scale on a pen plotter.  He used white paper, but in a dark room it was translucent enough.   So I taped it on the TV and set all my GREEN to the grid.  I set up the grid roughly and then went to fine adjustment.  In fine adjustment I set the grid to dots.  I aligned every dot in the GREEN to the grid overlay that I made (about 1/2 hr to 1hr. worth of work).  Then I removed the paper grid overlay.  Next... I matched up all the RED and then finally the BLUE and then Mute + ENTER'd it.  You need to get up close to the TV set and get into fine adjustment mode and set the grid to dots and align ever set of dots GREEN, RED, and BLUE to each other.  This is the most accurate way to do it.  Don't forget to MUTE+ENTER it after you are sure that you set everything correctly. 

My wife has called the TV my mistress, since I have spent more time with it than her lately.  But... it's for the family.  So take your time and do it right.  I spent about 2 hours total.  I am curious though what the actual grid size is supposed to be.  If you figure that out let me know.  I could not find anyone that could give me that info.  I am sure it is some metric measurement.  Even the Sony repair shop said that they have no grid, they use string.  That is a little barbaric for my taste. 

My brother came over this weekend to see the TV he gave to me for FREE (he was going to throw it out).  First of all he can't believe that I fixed it for under $30 (BIG THANKS TO THIS SITE AND LARRY) and he said the picture looked as good as his new Samsung 46" LCD ($2500 retail).  Hope this approach might be able to help someone out.  Let me know what you come up with.

Robert

September 25, 2007 4:54 PM

LOL - funny, I was thinking of using string to do it, too! 

Actually, the picture is beautiful til you get a pan with something that's totally horizontal or vertical.... then you see the bubble effect...

But, my glasses cause things to shift by inches to nearly a foot as they move from center to outside of lens...  even on a perfect TV.  That's why it's taken so long to confirm it's really doing that... hahah

September 27, 2007 10:45 AM

I have a Sony projection TV KP-46WT510, when the set is turned on the
standby light blinks four times. I have replaced IC8003(LA78045). (the
board number is A1302708A)
After replacing the IC I am still experiencing the same problem as the
standby light is still blinking four times. I am asking if you can
assist me with the problem and a service manual will be greatly
appreciated. thanks in advance.

September 27, 2007 10:48 AM

Where do you want the manual sent to? There is no e-mail address to send it to here.

"Those who do not know their opponet's arguments, do not completely understand their own".

October 17, 2007 12:03 AM

Hi Larry,

Stumbled across this site while looking up the problem with my tv KP-46WT510, red is off to one side, will not converge, not temperature dependant.  is the service manual the same as for the KP-46WT500? if so could you send a copy to me at SupaflyRT at Yahoo dot ca? Thanks in advance, Brad

October 26, 2007 4:53 PM

Larry,

Could you send me the service manual to the Sony KP-46WT500 to carlos@southlandprinting.com.

I have installed the pando software for download.

Thank you in advance.

Carlos

October 30, 2007 11:17 PM

Larry Dillon said: Where do you want the manual sent to? There is no e-mail address to send it to here.

Hi Larry,

My Sony KP-46WT510 also has problem too, could you please send me the service manual to

rayhung@adelphia.net, I've installed Pando too. Thank you very much.

Ray Hung 

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November 1, 2007 7:26 PM

Saadat - resistors on sonys are normally not your secondary problem. because, sony fuses everything. most likely a fuse has opened up. they don't look like normal fuses. they are yellow and look like a resistor, normally the fuses around the stk's are 3.15 amp. Also on the g board you should have two 5 amp fuses that look the same way as the ones on d board (yellow resister looking) use a meter and check these fuses first. i bet you will find one open.

View unverified member's comment - posted by Saadat

November 2, 2007 7:47 AM

Saadat -- Yes, it is the main power for the stk's

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November 4, 2007 8:56 PM

Larry

 Thanks for all of this great information about ic problems.  I have a sony kp-46wt510, and am tring to get everything lined up.  I can't seem to find the service manual anywhere, if you could please send me a copy i would be greatfull.  Thanks again for all of your great advice.  paranormal18@hotmail.com

November 4, 2007 9:58 PM

Larry,

i have a sony kp-57hw40. i had the repair man repair it. but now the colors dont match, and the actual grid is not straight, he said that it would be impossible to fix the problem. by reading all the posts i can see that its not really true what he said, so i want to try it my self. also, when i switch from wide screen to normal or extra wide, the colors dont match at all. i was wondering if you can send me the service manual if you have it.

tombiber@gmail.com

your help will be greatly appriciated.

Thanks

Tom

November 5, 2007 7:19 AM

tominga - your tv has several convergence modes, you need to switch to.

I have written an article about sony convergence try this http://www.techlore.com/article/19631/Sony-Convergence-Procedure/

November 5, 2007 8:14 AM

Zapdbf,

i have been working in this mode, for some time, but i am new to this, i got the procedures. i was wondering if there is anything special that i need to do, based on the repair manual. i took the TV apart last night, and i have twitched the green tube. then i went to service mode, to align the 3 colors. The problem is when i switch from normal screen, to wide, to zoom, to extra zoom, the colors dont match, so i think i have to adjust the color in each screen separatly.

Please let me know if i am wrong.

any helpful advise would be greatly appriciated.

thanks

Tom

November 5, 2007 8:24 AM

Tom,

You have to copy from the full mode to the other modes using the remote.  It should tell you the commands in the manual to perform to copy them over.  I have not worked on mine for a few months so I do not remember exactly what to do.  The previous article is correct in setting the convergence.  I created a grid overlay to set the green.  Don't forget to mark the centers of the screen for reference.  Once you get the rough convergence set for the green go back and set the fine tune convergence.  Then go to the other colors seperately by either covering the other lights or switching them off.  I found that after I got the grid set I swithed to the dot mode.  This is much better for tweaking the colors. 

FYI: I just used a large sheet of paper to cover the additional lights.

 Robert

November 5, 2007 8:29 AM

Robert,

thanks for your reply, i dont have the service manual, if i can find one, i will copy the modes..

thanks

Tom

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